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is the governor summoning the compassionate conservatism of george w. bush? chris hayes gives us the how and why next. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. is an awesome place to be. introducing the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ sophisticated new styling, the fuel-saving intelligence of eassist, 37 mpg highway, and up to 580 highway miles on a single tank of gas. ♪ the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ it has everything to put you in the malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ >>> he's the invisible man of the gop, his endorsement a brief i'm for mitt romney came as a pair of elevator doors were closing. despite being the last republican to occupy the white house he was nowhere to be seen at the republican national convention but is mitt romney now embracing a little bit of w.? as the republican nominee moved toward the center of w
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w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double tonight. critical reviews across the board. the consensus and also the political reality now staring team obama in the face. there is also no denying that no matter who wins or loses a given debate, each side immedia
w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one,...
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tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just poi
tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them,...
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in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has been strategically spent is the question. we've focused a laser on the middle class. there's a week in august where restore had an ad up about jobs, crossroads had an ad up about the debt. >> those are three republican-oriented super pacs. >> romney was advertising on welfare reform. if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed
in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has...
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w. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press secretary for howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign. thank you both for joining us. it was not so much fun watching last night and today, i kind of had the sense that we've read at different points in our lives about the seven stages of grief. i kind of saw the democratic party working through the stages today. tim, let me ask you are they now beginning to deal with reality and figure out how to put these things back together? >> you know, i actually went back and rewatched the debate today. it was sort of le
w. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press...
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w. kit? >> reporter: liz, it is even worse than the experts have predicted for some gas stations. for example, this chevron in san jose, on tuesday, people were complaining about a 20- cent jump overnight. since that time, the price has gone up another 40 cents. now some gas stations themselves are running empty. >> refinery-ageddon has already begun. several stations have locked up pumps after running out of gas. supply is down because a power surge knocked a refinery in torrence offline. and it's not the only one. a chevron crude oil pipeline through central california is shut down due to safety problems. and the chevron refinery in richmond still hasn't recovered from the fire in august. brace your wallets. >> we have never seen a spike like this. this is brand-new territory. >> reporter: mike has to sell regular unleaded at 4.89 a gallon just to stay afloat. he locked up the pumps because it looked like he was gouging customers but later he had to open back up and sell at a huge loss
w. kit? >> reporter: liz, it is even worse than the experts have predicted for some gas stations. for example, this chevron in san jose, on tuesday, people were complaining about a 20- cent jump overnight. since that time, the price has gone up another 40 cents. now some gas stations themselves are running empty. >> refinery-ageddon has already begun. several stations have locked up pumps after running out of gas. supply is down because a power surge knocked a refinery in torrence...
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not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a
not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all...
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here to break it down, fox news contributor, former senior advisor to president george w. bush karl rove. thank you so much for coming back on the show, carl. >> you bet. thank you for having me. melissa: the big question, does it all translate into votes? what do you think? >> typically a strong debate performance in the first debate does translate into a an improvement in the numbers for a particularly for a challenger. how big a an improvement depends upon the arc of the entire debate series. we won't know exactly until the final debate. if you look at it in seven out of the last nine presidential debates series, the challenger party has benefited, the incumbent party benefited in two of nine. how big the advantage gets to be depends upon the arc of the entire debate performance but the first sets tone. i think the tone was set quite well by governor romney last night in his campaign. melissa: what do you think he has to do in the second debate? has he now raised the bar so high? people that support him are so jazzed how he did but does you have to come out blazing agai
here to break it down, fox news contributor, former senior advisor to president george w. bush karl rove. thank you so much for coming back on the show, carl. >> you bet. thank you for having me. melissa: the big question, does it all translate into votes? what do you think? >> typically a strong debate performance in the first debate does translate into a an improvement in the numbers for a particularly for a challenger. how big a an improvement depends upon the arc of the entire...
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president carter defeated >> and now he works with and with george w bush as well. and the time i was interviewing president bush was when i was doing a piece on the former president. in the same i don't understand what's going on in washington. said when i was minority leader in the house and my father and your father was the majority leader of the house, he said we would get in the cab together and we would say what are we going to argue about? and he said this is a legitimate debate. and it was part of -- for heaven's sakes, we were the leader of our party. but then we would go back to the hill and be able to be civil with each other and have a drink and be friends. you know, now that's not even close. i mean, there's nothing like that going on in washington today. i have my own idea why but i am much more interested in hearing yours. so i think i'll start with you, senator daschle, because you didn't do it and now you are, so why? >> well, first of all, i disagree a little bit because onand i worked together on a lot of private things. i'm glad we did. it's hard
president carter defeated >> and now he works with and with george w bush as well. and the time i was interviewing president bush was when i was doing a piece on the former president. in the same i don't understand what's going on in washington. said when i was minority leader in the house and my father and your father was the majority leader of the house, he said we would get in the cab together and we would say what are we going to argue about? and he said this is a legitimate debate....
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george w. bush had it in 2004 against john kerry. look, when you're president, one of the many privileges of your office is that where you sit people do not customarily walk in and tell you you're wrong or full of crap. it just doesn't happen. >> right. >> what happens in a debate is your challenger looks you straight in the eye and says you're fundamentally wrong and you're taking the country down the wrong direction. the president turns around and says what? i'm doing everything i can. it's that adjustment period the president did not respond well to last night and i guarantee you having talked to many obama advisors in denver last night they're going to retool the preparations, his attitude and demeanor. >> how big of shift in this campaign this was debate? most polls had mitt romney trailing by four, five, six points. now there seems to be a renewed interest in his campaign by perhaps some of these polls. >> i've written this many times this year. gallop had it 49-47 and so did the washington post. going into the debate the same.
george w. bush had it in 2004 against john kerry. look, when you're president, one of the many privileges of your office is that where you sit people do not customarily walk in and tell you you're wrong or full of crap. it just doesn't happen. >> right. >> what happens in a debate is your challenger looks you straight in the eye and says you're fundamentally wrong and you're taking the country down the wrong direction. the president turns around and says what? i'm doing everything i...
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. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez coordinated strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaign. we met in his san antonio home. >> how do candidates fall into this pitfall of appearing to pandering to a bloc. >> talking one way to a group of individuals and then going into the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces a candidate to look out there, know he's not talking and delivering a message that has to bring the two groups of people together. >> reporter: television ads offer a snapshot to president obama and mitt romney's strategy in courting latino voters. the obama campaign is using latino celebrities, targeting education, immigration and the appointment of sonia sotomayor as the first hispanic justice on the supreme court. but the romney campaign is using family. mitt romney's son, craig, who speaks fluent spanish, talks about american values and bipartisanship. this is the chief marketing offer of cultural strategies, he's analyzed the marketing strategies and sees obama and romney targeting specific groups in the latino communit
. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez coordinated strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaign. we met in his san antonio home. >> how do candidates fall into this pitfall of appearing to pandering to a bloc. >> talking one way to a group of individuals and then going into the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces a candidate to look out there, know he's not talking and delivering a message that has to bring the two groups of...
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president george w. bush's labor secretary elaine chao is here. he may be surprised by her answer. >>> but first, more street signs with mandy. >> bob, thank you very much. i'll take over from here. >>> speaking of disaster, college costs might be the next big fiscal cliff on the rohoriz. the price of education continues. to soar. many private universities cost upwards of $60,000 a year. that, my friends, is for an undergraduate degree. when will this end? is it even worth it anymore? let us ask derek thompson, senior editor at "the atlantic." derek, first question. why is college so doggone expensive? >> there are two reasons i think why college is so expensive. the first is people and the second is government. >> you're right. if robots taught classes, it would be cheaper. >> exactly. the student/teacher radio in 1980 was 16-1. the student to teacher ratio in 2011 was 16-1. the student-teacher ratio in ancient greece was probably 16-1. to replace people with technology, costs tend to up go and up. the second more recent development is that a sta
president george w. bush's labor secretary elaine chao is here. he may be surprised by her answer. >>> but first, more street signs with mandy. >> bob, thank you very much. i'll take over from here. >>> speaking of disaster, college costs might be the next big fiscal cliff on the rohoriz. the price of education continues. to soar. many private universities cost upwards of $60,000 a year. that, my friends, is for an undergraduate degree. when will this end? is it even...
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ahead, the head of the national urban lead and the former special assistant to george w. bush will face off next. quite a day we got going here. >>> also ahead, what must happen to bring the individual investor back? a look at all these stocks hitting all-time highs today. look at walmart. now at 75 after languishing around 50. philip morris, ibm, our parent company comcast, and google at $770. back in two. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. syou know, i've helped a lot off people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of large metal object hitting the ground) things have been a l
ahead, the head of the national urban lead and the former special assistant to george w. bush will face off next. quite a day we got going here. >>> also ahead, what must happen to bring the individual investor back? a look at all these stocks hitting all-time highs today. look at walmart. now at 75 after languishing around 50. philip morris, ibm, our parent company comcast, and google at $770. back in two. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi...
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w. that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request mark halperin of time magazine and benjamin brafman, a leading trial attorney. the mitt romney was on display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carr
w. that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request...
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you saw this with george w. bush. george h.w. bush. for some reason presidents who live in this kind of cloistered environment where they are not challenged on a day-to-day basis, they get into debate prep, they get into that one on one situation with another candidate and just don't feel challenged. it takes that one debate to shake things up and get them back on track. >> american airlines has a my explanation for seats that fell apart in mid-flight. american is fixing seats on 48 of its 757 jets. dozens of flights are cancelled today. 50 flights were cancelled yesterday. seats have come loose on three american flights since last week. at first american said faulty floor clamps were to blame. now the airline says it was a combination of wear, poor design and even spilled soda. >> a cable tv movie on the killing of osama bin laden will air two days before the election. some critics want to know why. "s.e.al. team six: the raid on osama bin laden aka code name geronimo" is scheduled for november 4th on the national geographic channel.
you saw this with george w. bush. george h.w. bush. for some reason presidents who live in this kind of cloistered environment where they are not challenged on a day-to-day basis, they get into debate prep, they get into that one on one situation with another candidate and just don't feel challenged. it takes that one debate to shake things up and get them back on track. >> american airlines has a my explanation for seats that fell apart in mid-flight. american is fixing seats on 48 of...
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w. that wraps up another week. where has the time gone? we'll be back here monday, same time, same channel, we hope to see you then. bill: we have got a packed program. good morning, everybody. want to start with this now. fox news alert. there are brand new unemployment numbers that could have a impact on race for the white house. labor department reporting unemployment dropses below 8% first time in four years. a lot of questions remain on those numbers. good morn ebb everybody, i'm bill hemmer. martha: good morning everybody, i'm martha maccallum. last time we saw rate this low, that would be january 2009, when president obama took office. the labor department says of these numbers, employers added only 114,000 jobs over the course of that month. so that raises a let of questions about this headline number. many jobs added are part-time jobs. bill: stuart varney, anchor of "varney & company" in the fox business network. you read what? >> there is widespread mistrust of this report and
w. that wraps up another week. where has the time gone? we'll be back here monday, same time, same channel, we hope to see you then. bill: we have got a packed program. good morning, everybody. want to start with this now. fox news alert. there are brand new unemployment numbers that could have a impact on race for the white house. labor department reporting unemployment dropses below 8% first time in four years. a lot of questions remain on those numbers. good morn ebb everybody, i'm bill...
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and -- now he works with -- with president george w. bush as well. and the time i was interviewing president bush is when i was doing a series of pieces on former presidents and constitution. in that same set of interviews, i interviewed president ford. the last time i saw him. and he said you know, cokie, i just don't understand what's going on in washington. after his many years in the house of representatives. when i was minority leader of the house, and your father, my father, hail boggs was majority leader of the house, he said when we were minority and majority leader, we would get in a cab together and go down to the press club or someplace and say what are we going to argue about? and he would say, that is a legitimate debate. we genuinely disagreed about means to an end. and it was part zing. for heaven's sakes, we were the leaders of our parties. then we got in the cab and be best friends and go back to the hill and be able to be civil with each other, have a drink together and, you know, be very good friends. they were such good friends th
and -- now he works with -- with president george w. bush as well. and the time i was interviewing president bush is when i was doing a series of pieces on former presidents and constitution. in that same set of interviews, i interviewed president ford. the last time i saw him. and he said you know, cokie, i just don't understand what's going on in washington. after his many years in the house of representatives. when i was minority leader of the house, and your father, my father, hail boggs...
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ari fleischer, press secretary to george w. bush big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she manages to survive without federal money. try it big bird. you'll be just fine. joan rivers attention pbs, if mitt romney fire big bird i'm ready to fill in. i've got the perfect outfit. president obama did not pounce directly during the debates but did thursday on the trail. >> when asked what he would actually do to cut the deficit and reduce spending he said he would eliminate funding for public television. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird! it's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> reporter: last night, the late night show ss had fun with it, too. >> [ bleep ] fire big bird! >> reporter: for years, conservatives have accused pbs of having a liberal buy asias, arguing its federal funds aren't justified. >> we are clearly, as a country, facing such significant challenges. but to talk about pbs in budget issues to me is unbelievable. >> reporter: the official sesame
ari fleischer, press secretary to george w. bush big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she manages to survive without federal money. try it big bird. you'll be just fine. joan rivers attention pbs, if mitt romney fire big bird i'm ready to fill in. i've got the perfect outfit. president obama did not pounce directly during the debates but did thursday on the trail. >> when asked what he would actually do to cut the deficit and reduce spending he said he would eliminate funding for...
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george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote, it will be by .02, if at all. the party has to figure out how to do much better with minority voters. african-americans, it will be hard for us to get their vote for a while because the president is black. republicans have to do significantly better than we are doing right now. in the future, we have to do significantly better with latino voters. >> the republican political model is not sustainable, the current one. it has to change. one technical question -- when i look at various polls, and a lot of times the top numbers look very reasonable and consistent, and when you start look
george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote,...